Comments on: Gays and Lesbians in Society http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/ Mon, 09 Jan 2012 01:49:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Days http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-36434 Days Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:45:18 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-36434 For me, I don't mind seeing girls and girls or guys and guys.. Can’t really blame em for having feeling for the same species. Ala.. KL or anywhere else in the world, most of em accept what is going on between people's interest.. Like Angelina Jolie.. She was a lesbo before with that.. wala wala jap girl.. And I'm Bi.. so?.. Err... know what.. I think I just lost my point somewhere there.. But yeah, I can accept both "species". But Bryan, why must it be the guys point of view? Ever thought about what the girls might think, beside thinking that it is ok? For me, I don’t mind seeing girls and girls or guys and guys.. Can’t really blame em for having feeling for the same species. Ala.. KL or anywhere else in the world, most of em accept what is going on between people’s interest.. Like Angelina Jolie.. She was a lesbo before with that.. wala wala jap girl.. And I’m Bi.. so?.. Err… know what.. I think I just lost my point somewhere there.. But yeah, I can accept both “species”. But Bryan, why must it be the guys point of view? Ever thought about what the girls might think, beside thinking that it is ok?

]]> By: TooKool http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-25240 TooKool Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:02:55 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-25240 I'd rather watch two lesbos doing it than two gay men.Bisexual ladies are the best. I’d rather watch two lesbos doing it than two gay men.Bisexual ladies are the best.

]]> By: Sultan_D http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-21483 Sultan_D Tue, 29 May 2007 04:10:35 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-21483 In Malaysia, its not quite accepted, because by and large, it is a relatively conservative society. But this country is like a Russian doll. Theres so many layers. However, most of the action takes place in WP, which is gayer than San Francisco, and a walk down the catwalk at Jalan Bukit Bintang will prove that point. But thats changing very quickly, against the tide of a conservative government and religious establishment. Back to the "Russian Doll" analogy. Malaysia is a multiracial society, and the contrasts between the cities and states are so stark there is no definite answer. Indians, Chinese, and Malays will have different outlooks, and experience. The lifestyle possible in Kuala Lumpur cannot take place in Khota Bharu, and you'll find a much higher level of acceptance in the Klang Valley than other regions. Its also an unfortunate fact that the gay lifestyle is inherently riskier than the lesbian one, and that the education and harm reduction strategies that are taking place in Singapore are not happening in Malaysia, due to religious conservatism. If Malaysia does not wake up, legalise homosexual acts, allow education, and harm reduction strategies, it will pay dearly. Misleading publicity, shame and censorship will damage the entire country. Gay people are taxpayers as well. These have been accepted International best practice in other developed nations since the 1980's. If Malaysia wants to achieve the objectives of Wawasan 2020, it needs to follow that. In Malaysia, its not quite accepted, because by and large, it is a relatively conservative society. But this country is like a Russian doll. Theres so many layers. However, most of the action takes place in WP, which is gayer than San Francisco, and a walk down the catwalk at Jalan Bukit Bintang will prove that point. But thats changing very quickly, against the tide of a conservative government and religious establishment.

Back to the “Russian Doll” analogy. Malaysia is a multiracial society, and the contrasts between the cities and states are so stark there is no definite answer. Indians, Chinese, and Malays will have different outlooks, and experience.

The lifestyle possible in Kuala Lumpur cannot take place in Khota Bharu, and you’ll find a much higher level of acceptance in the Klang Valley than other regions.

Its also an unfortunate fact that the gay lifestyle is inherently riskier than the lesbian one, and that the education and harm reduction strategies that are taking place in Singapore are not happening in Malaysia, due to religious conservatism. If Malaysia does not wake up, legalise homosexual acts, allow education, and harm reduction strategies, it will pay dearly. Misleading publicity, shame and censorship will damage the entire country. Gay people are taxpayers as well.

These have been accepted International best practice in other developed nations since the 1980′s. If Malaysia wants to achieve the objectives of Wawasan 2020, it needs to follow that.

]]> By: Gallivanter http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20922 Gallivanter Fri, 25 May 2007 06:24:31 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20922 <i>Bryan</i> Well said! Finally someone has answered my question and not throw diplomatic namby-pamby thoughts. Thanks Bryan! :-) Bryan Well said! Finally someone has answered my question and not throw diplomatic namby-pamby thoughts. Thanks Bryan! :-)

]]> By: Bryan http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20905 Bryan Fri, 25 May 2007 04:14:04 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20905 Why is it both men and women accept lesbians as part of society, but not gays. I'll answer the 2nd part first. Actually I found that many of my male friends have no problem with gays but due to peer pressure, they have to act as if its not ok. Its an image thing. When you're trying to be seen as an alpha male, you cannot afford to be seen as 'soft'. In fact you make fun of 'soft' people just to strengthen the perception that you are unlike them. Its quite self serving actually, to feel better about oneself by hating other that are not like you. On the straight male's acceptance of gay females, that's a fantasy thing. What's a bed full of naked females? A harem. To the guy it doesn't matter what the ladies are doing to each other because his focus is on the number of female genitals available. So again it serves his purpose. Why is it both men and women accept lesbians as part of society, but not gays. I’ll answer the 2nd part first. Actually I found that many of my male friends have no problem with gays but due to peer pressure, they have to act as if its not ok. Its an image thing. When you’re trying to be seen as an alpha male, you cannot afford to be seen as ‘soft’. In fact you make fun of ‘soft’ people just to strengthen the perception that you are unlike them. Its quite self serving actually, to feel better about oneself by hating other that are not like you.

On the straight male’s acceptance of gay females, that’s a fantasy thing. What’s a bed full of naked females? A harem. To the guy it doesn’t matter what the ladies are doing to each other because his focus is on the number of female genitals available. So again it serves his purpose.

]]> By: Gallivanter http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20811 Gallivanter Thu, 24 May 2007 08:42:02 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20811 <i>coffeerox</i> Yes, I couldn't agree more! Brad Pitt's a lucky dude. :-P coffeerox Yes, I couldn’t agree more! Brad Pitt’s a lucky dude. :-P

]]> By: coffeerox http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20799 coffeerox Thu, 24 May 2007 06:47:06 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20799 isn't jolie like so freaking delicious!? ^__^ isn’t jolie like so freaking delicious!?

^__^

]]> By: Gallivanter http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20792 Gallivanter Thu, 24 May 2007 06:08:46 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20792 <i>coffeerox</i> There's a thing call efficient timekeeping. :-P Mmmmm....Angelina Jolie...mmmm <i>lexhooi</i> Omigosh! Is that what's happening at cybercafes these days? coffeerox There’s a thing call efficient timekeeping. :-P Mmmmm….Angelina Jolie…mmmm

lexhooi Omigosh! Is that what’s happening at cybercafes these days?

]]> By: lexhooi http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20767 lexhooi Thu, 24 May 2007 02:39:41 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20767 i think society is changing...i dont mind lesbians or gays..in fact gays teach me a thing or two. what bothers me is there's a blog of a self-confessed gay malaysian boy who said he was turned gay by a straight worker in a cyber cafe that he frequents. i think society is changing…i dont mind lesbians or gays..in fact gays teach me a thing or two. what bothers me is there’s a blog of a self-confessed gay malaysian boy who said he was turned gay by a straight worker in a cyber cafe that he frequents.

]]> By: coffeerox http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20761 coffeerox Thu, 24 May 2007 01:52:05 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20761 hey... some of us work ok... hehehe..... went for counselling... aparently, my doc says I need to get rid of my angelina jolie shrine... I am getting obsessed with her and if I don't do something soon, I might start playing for the opposite team...... *__^ hey… some of us work ok…

hehehe…..

went for counselling… aparently, my doc says I need to get rid of my angelina jolie shrine… I am getting obsessed with her and if I don’t do something soon, I might start playing for the opposite team……

*__^

]]> By: Gallivanter http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20699 Gallivanter Wed, 23 May 2007 14:51:32 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20699 <i>Tine</i> Okay thanks. :-) <i>Lucifer</i> I'm sure you do, that's kinda stating the obvious, but I feel we should stop being politically/diplomatically correct for once... <i>xin</i> Nooooooooooooooooo! *JUMPS OFF THE BUILDING* <i>coffeerox</i> Finally, what took you so long? :-P Tine Okay thanks. :-)

Lucifer I’m sure you do, that’s kinda stating the obvious, but I feel we should stop being politically/diplomatically correct for once…

xin Nooooooooooooooooo! *JUMPS OFF THE BUILDING*

coffeerox Finally, what took you so long? :-P

]]> By: coffeerox http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20673 coffeerox Wed, 23 May 2007 10:34:54 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20673 This is crazy! To know I 'inspired' all this and wasn't part of the dicussion! hehehe... Personally, I don't really have issues with gays and lesbians... have a few friends.. more gays now since my lez friends and I all departed after school... I even had a girl after me... which made things very interesting for my BF cos he knew about it... hahaha... From a religious point of view, well it is uncomfortable... but from a 'all part of life's tapestry' perspective, well they do add flavour... my gay friends LOVE to advice me about my choice of men and my sense of fashion... even when you don't want it. And they always say - you know I luv you right? but seriously... the whole anal thing does bother me a bit... so as long as the boys keep their romp tales private, we have a great friendship. Tho sometimes they are just bursting to tell........ :-\ ^__^ This is crazy! To know I ‘inspired’ all this and wasn’t part of the dicussion! hehehe…

Personally, I don’t really have issues with gays and lesbians… have a few friends.. more gays now since my lez friends and I all departed after school… I even had a girl after me… which made things very interesting for my BF cos he knew about it… hahaha…

From a religious point of view, well it is uncomfortable… but from a ‘all part of life’s tapestry’ perspective, well they do add flavour… my gay friends LOVE to advice me about my choice of men and my sense of fashion… even when you don’t want it. And they always say – you know I luv you right?

but seriously… the whole anal thing does bother me a bit… so as long as the boys keep their romp tales private, we have a great friendship. Tho sometimes they are just bursting to tell…….. :-\

^__^

]]> By: xin http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20607 xin Wed, 23 May 2007 04:31:11 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20607 what do you say.. when you wake up one day, u go into toilet and found lub and domdom lying on the shelf? when you have been suspecting the 2 guy housemates staying next to your room...devastating u know! what do you say.. when you wake up one day, u go into toilet and found lub and domdom lying on the shelf? when you have been suspecting the 2 guy housemates staying next to your room…devastating u know!

]]> By: Lucifer http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20602 Lucifer Wed, 23 May 2007 04:15:26 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20602 i agree with what Lex said...yeha oh great Gallivanter i was talking about mating :D i agree with what Lex said…yeha oh great Gallivanter i was talking about mating :D

]]> By: Tine http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20586 Tine Wed, 23 May 2007 03:07:58 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20586 I have homophobic colleagues who would shudder at and slam down male homosexuals, but fantasise about gay women, especially when they're *ahem* part of the fantasy too. I've seen both parties in action, and honestly, it doesn't bother me. It really is how an individual would perceive them to be. It's not a "OMG, he's gay, or she's a lesbian, ooooh", that kinda thing. At the end of the day, they're still people, whom, like everyone else, deserve their due respect. I have homophobic colleagues who would shudder at and slam down male homosexuals, but fantasise about gay women, especially when they’re *ahem* part of the fantasy too.

I’ve seen both parties in action, and honestly, it doesn’t bother me. It really is how an individual would perceive them to be. It’s not a “OMG, he’s gay, or she’s a lesbian, ooooh”, that kinda thing. At the end of the day, they’re still people, whom, like everyone else, deserve their due respect.

]]> By: Gallivanter http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20568 Gallivanter Wed, 23 May 2007 01:26:33 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20568 <i>Rudy</i> I read bits and pieces and I understand where you're coming from. Just didn't need to go into graphic details about the anal stuff. :-P <i>Lex</i> Wow, thanks for pointing that out...you smart... Rudy I read bits and pieces and I understand where you’re coming from. Just didn’t need to go into graphic details about the anal stuff. :-P

Lex Wow, thanks for pointing that out…you smart…

]]> By: Lex http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20557 Lex Wed, 23 May 2007 00:18:17 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20557 In the end of the day, they are humans too with feelings just like us. I think they all deserve to be respected equally In the end of the day, they are humans too with feelings just like us. I think they all deserve to be respected equally

]]> By: Rudy http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20490 Rudy Tue, 22 May 2007 14:11:04 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20490 I remember when I was still a little wet behind the ears when it came to what life was about, it made me feel very weird whenever I saw a lesbian or gay couple. Curious because I wonder how the "parts" fit but regardless weird. Before leaving for the US which broke...no...shattered any misconception that I had associated with homosexuality, the only exposure I had was from what I heard, taught in Church and the trannies I saw who flaunted their "revised Va-J Js" from "Boom Boom Room" Curious yet weirded out, but I guess it quite understandable since the sources of information was from extremely different outlets. The US opened my eyes...I met many gay and lesbian couples and even though "Queer as Folk" ( Luuuv the show) sort of shocked me from weird but curious to totally fascinated by the "male bonding ritual" (for my own personal reasons ;P ), I realized that just as hetrosexuals may indulge in a one night stand or a loving relationship so do homosexuals, only difference the parts fit differently. This is my journey to my current realizations... I explain this journey to point out that how we see things has a direct relation to what we know or learn. 1) If a guy is weirded out by a gay couple is probably because they are weirded out by something going up their ass. No one grows up with the concept "By the way, your butt is not just an exit hole, it actually can be an entry way" And we all know what a bitch it is when we are trying to let go during a constipation...ugggggg. Anyone who has no idea that despite the fact that it excretes all our leftovers, for men the root of the penis is sensitive and can be stimulated through the perineum or the rectum and is just one reason that anal penetration feels pleasurable to many men. If there is a Biological explanation for it just like how a womans "clit" is the spot then the only thing that is blocking them from seeing the "Man ritual" is not being able to adjust to the fact that anal sex for men is actually pleasurable. Ironically there are men who wants to engage with"Anal copulation" with women...and there are women who don't even want to deal with it...but there are women who actually said it was an acquired taste. PERCEPTION 2) Since I have discussed a lot about perception, the only comment I would like leave is...if two beautiful women are making out...there are drool from here to timbuktu with explosions like it is Pearl Harbor bombing re-enacted...not all lesbians are Porn beautiful, there are normal looking women who are homosexual...there are some that are a combination of a Tomboy and a feminine...imagine that...Do you still think that is beautiful or easier on the eyes? So why is it gays are more of a taboo than women? PERCEPTION I remember when I was still a little wet behind the ears when it came to what life was about, it made me feel very weird whenever I saw a lesbian or gay couple. Curious because I wonder how the “parts” fit but regardless weird. Before leaving for the US which broke…no…shattered any misconception that I had associated with homosexuality, the only exposure I had was from what I heard, taught in Church and the trannies I saw who flaunted their “revised Va-J Js” from “Boom Boom Room” Curious yet weirded out, but I guess it quite understandable since the sources of information was from extremely different outlets.

The US opened my eyes…I met many gay and lesbian couples and even though “Queer as Folk” ( Luuuv the show) sort of shocked me from weird but curious to totally fascinated by the “male bonding ritual” (for my own personal reasons ;P ), I realized that just as hetrosexuals may indulge in a one night stand or a loving relationship so do homosexuals, only difference the parts fit differently.

This is my journey to my current realizations…

I explain this journey to point out that how we see things has a direct relation to what we know or learn.

1) If a guy is weirded out by a gay couple is probably because they are weirded out by something going up their ass. No one grows up with the concept “By the way, your butt is not just an exit hole, it actually can be an entry way” And we all know what a bitch it is when we are trying to let go during a constipation…ugggggg.

Anyone who has no idea that despite the fact that it excretes all our leftovers, for men the root of the penis is sensitive and can be stimulated through the perineum or the rectum and is just one reason that anal penetration feels pleasurable to many men. If there is a Biological explanation for it just like how a womans “clit” is the spot then the only thing that is blocking them from seeing the “Man ritual” is not being able to adjust to the fact that anal sex for men is actually pleasurable.

Ironically there are men who wants to engage with”Anal copulation” with women…and there are women who don’t even want to deal with it…but there are women who actually said it was an acquired taste. PERCEPTION

2) Since I have discussed a lot about perception, the only comment I would like leave is…if two beautiful women are making out…there are drool from here to timbuktu with explosions like it is Pearl Harbor bombing re-enacted…not all lesbians are Porn beautiful, there are normal looking women who are homosexual…there are some that are a combination of a Tomboy and a feminine…imagine that…Do you still think that is beautiful or easier on the eyes?

So why is it gays are more of a taboo than women? PERCEPTION

]]> By: Gallivanter http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20486 Gallivanter Tue, 22 May 2007 13:15:32 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20486 <i>tihtahpah</i> Flavour? Like durians? :-P <i>Lady Stiletto</i> LOL. Thanks, so one lady in favor of gays over lesbians. Interesting. <i>Yvy</i> Looks like it may not be answered. Chances of solving that Darwyn's chicken vs egg theory is higher, and I did that already a couple of entries ago. <i>xin</i> Nooooooooo! *JUMPS OFF THE BUILDING* <i>marsha</i> Just the feedback I was looking for, thanks Marsha! <i>nyx</i> Wow, you know what, I think you got this one spot on! <i>Lucifer</i> Oh satan, I hope you're still talking about human mating. :-P Why do people listen to priests anyway? <i>papajoneh</i> Well, yes, I've met quite a few in my lifetime. LOL. I like your second comment. <i>Kay Kastum</i> Hmmm, it's possible... tihtahpah Flavour? Like durians? :-P

Lady Stiletto LOL. Thanks, so one lady in favor of gays over lesbians. Interesting.

Yvy Looks like it may not be answered. Chances of solving that Darwyn’s chicken vs egg theory is higher, and I did that already a couple of entries ago.

xin Nooooooooo! *JUMPS OFF THE BUILDING*

marsha Just the feedback I was looking for, thanks Marsha!

nyx Wow, you know what, I think you got this one spot on!

Lucifer Oh satan, I hope you’re still talking about human mating. :-P Why do people listen to priests anyway?

papajoneh Well, yes, I’ve met quite a few in my lifetime. LOL. I like your second comment.

Kay Kastum Hmmm, it’s possible…

]]> By: Kay Kastum http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/opinions/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/comment-page-1/#comment-20466 Kay Kastum Tue, 22 May 2007 10:19:50 +0000 http://danielfranklingomez.com/blog/2007/05/22/gays-and-lesbians-in-society/#comment-20466 Ya lah. It's all about fantasy end of the day I believe... Ya lah. It’s all about fantasy end of the day I believe…

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